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I had a happy Leprechaun Day.

As I keep mentioning, Exedore is my most favourite Robotech character, having a multifaceted appeal that probably doesn’t make much sense to people who aren’t me. But regardless, he had an action figure. I had to get one. But there was no place on the bloody interwebs where I could find one for sale. But through careful watching of EBay, I managed to score.

:D


From the few, but good pictures available online, I knew from the beginning that I was getting a very poor likeness, even by the standards of 1980s action figures. Looking at him in the plastic, though, I’d say the final work, while severely lacking even in comparison to the other figures, is a mix of good and bad.

Here we have the animated Exedore, in all his corpselike glory:



And here’s the figure:



The first of the bad is that his skin is the wrong damn colour. Instead of a liverly shade, it’s a pale lavender. Seriously, how do you get that wrong? Furthermore, where’s his poncho thingie?

There’s also minor niggling colour errors that are more to be expected: His hair is orange instead of red, and the secondary colour on his Zentraedi emblem is orange, too, instead of yellow. His shoes are also black instead of purple, and he doesn’t have blue cuffs. And the bits on his kneepads should be teal....also a random belt on his uniform and a few misplaced stripes. I am truly leading a life well spent.

The good is that the figure is actually a decent sculpt. The hair, the face, and the uniform aren’t entirely spot-on, but a fair likeness. They’re even going a bit for Exedore’s usual cocked-eyebrow expression.

He’s made out of a fairly hard plastic, which feels different than the ones my Real Ghostbusters figures are made from. I was surprised by how many joints his arms have: universals for the shoulders, swivel biceps, and hinged elbows. He has hinged knees, but his hard plastic coattails ensure that they don’t go very far. Also swivel thighs (no T-Crotch), and a turnable waist and head.

He came with his blister card, though was hardly MOC. I liked that I could have the card, too, since it’s one of the few things that identifies it as the geeky Zentraedi we (meaning I) know and love.

His card art again tries for the cocked-eyebrow expression, but it sort of looks like he had a stroke. As usual, the art’s much closer to the real character than the toy, but in this case the fact stands out a lot more. A male Zentraedi flagship is in the background above him. Randomly, I like the little pixellated green under the blister bubble.

Exedore is tagged for a ninety-nine cent discount from $5.99, and it makes me wonder what kind of a story is behind this little bugger.



The cardback has one of those clip-out profiles on it, which I’m leaving on. It reads:

"Breetai's Minister of Affairs. Exedore is the law. Advisor and confidant of Breetai, his physical deformity, by Zentraedi standards, causes him to be exempt from combat. Therefore, he has turned his energy into studying the history of Robotech and how it relates to the Zentraedi. It is this secret that drives him toward the humans and their prize SDF-1. The SDF-1 is, to Exedore, the key to the future."

Italics theirs. Hell yeah, he is the law.

Looking at this package back, I have to say I’m really surprised that the “Robotech squishies” line had so many figures, and especially so many girl figures--they made a Minmei action figure, forcyrinoutloud! Besides Exedore, they’ve got Dolza and a Robotech Master, three solid non-action guys whom I can’t imagine having much appeal to eleven-year-old-boys.

Oddly, the Prototype Exedore, though only visible in this tiny monochrome image, seems a lot more like the cartoon model. I wish they hadn’t changed it....

Well, this is all I’m ever going to get, so I am pleased at that. It’s a pity that like all other mecha franchises, the merchandise is so focused on the ‘bots; I’d love to see the SDF Macross characters remade using modern toy tech (since Robotech is floundering when it comes to new material, I’m not expecting any toys under their banner)--hell, I’ll even take Exedore as The Sprout, since that’s the design that’s found more favour over in Japan.

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Looking at this package back, I have to say I’m really surprised that the “Robotech squishies” line had so many figures, and especially so many girl figures--they made a Minmei action figure, forcyrinoutloud!

Actually, they didn't make a Minmei action figure. They made a few prototypes. As a collector in the pre-internet age, it was frustrating chasing rumors of people who had a friend of a friend who saw one, but didn't buy it. With the information available now, it has been documented that Matchbox never made Minmei. When Harmony Gold remade some of these same action figures (they actually re-did Micronized Miriya so that she was in her Zentraedi uniform - something she didn't have while micronized!) in the early 90s, they made the Minmei figure.

Anyway, I'm with you. They should make new action figures. Robotech had a lot of mecha, but it was all about the characters!

Thanks for the clarity. I had some idea that that was what had happened, but really was just too lazy to specify. :)

As for figures, in Japan some 12-inch dolls of Hikaru and Max in Do You Remember Love? uniforms were released recently. I wasn't interested, but it was nice to see the organic characters getting some attention.

No problem. I just spent so much time looking for Minmei when the figure didn't even exist, I thought I'd mention it.

I should clarify that Matchbox did make a Minmei, but it was for the 12 inch doll collection.

They are doing so much more with characters now than they ever did in the past. But still, we don't have any Robotech characters. We do have some good Macross ones. And I believe Toynami also did some Do You Remember Love dolls. If only they would do the same for Robotech!

My experience seems to be that unless your name is Rei Ayanami or Asuka Langley Soryu, (not a slam to Evangelion, given that I'm crazy about it) even Japanese toy companies don't do much with the human characters of mecha series. It's a pity.

I found a few Macross character figurines on bigbadtoystore.com:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/menu.aspx?menu=82&category=1278&page=2 (go through some of the other pages under this heading)

And yeah, the DYRL dolls were the Max and Hikaru (Rick) ones that just came out. They are expensive, but if you're interested in the characters, they look damn nice: super-articulated with cloth outfits.

I wouldn't really care which banner they were released under, Robotech or Macross, since I'm interested in both; I'm not picky.

I know. I did see more Eva character toys than any others back when it was still in production. And there are still a lot. I do see some classic characters ever once in a while. I've see Lupin III, Kei and Yuri, and a handful of others. But Macross does seem to be left out. I mean, for as popular as it was, you'd think you's see more. Back in the 80s, I did have a model, and actual glue-together model, of Minmay in her Chinese dress.

I think the DYRL dolls look great. But a little out of my price range since I got laid off in January and still don't have a job. But they do look nice.

I'd like to see more lower priced action figure type toys for Robotech or Macross. Mostly Robotech, though. Nothing against Macross. I do love my Macross. But with Macross, you'll never get a Scott Bernard or Dana Sterling toy. And odds of Southern Cross and Mospeada toys are very slim. Although, they are making a lot of Mospeada mecha toys.

How could I forget? When Southern Cross was still in production, a Japanese company (Arii, maybe?) made models of the characters in their armor. They were pretty cool. Some had heads with the helmet and without that you could change. Others just had removable face plates. They looked really good. My favorite was Lana (Nova). Who knew she didn't wear anything under her armor? Yes, you could remove her armor 'top'. I don't know why you'd want to because her arms always had the armor on. I think the makes of the toy had a crush on her character and just wanted to see her boobs in model form. Aside from that, most of the models also came with metal boots so that they could stand up better than most models. I wish I still had those. And I wish I would have bought some of the more obscure characters when I saw them.

Ah, I get you now. Sorry, I just fit the stereotype of the Robotech fan being a Macross Saga junkie. In my case, the Zentraedi are the alpha and omega of my interest in the series, so I don't find the other sagas as fun. I certainly respect them, though, and you're right, Robotech stuff probably gives them a better shot at being manufactured than any interest in their original series.

Lana-toy: Ew.

Well, at least your favourite character isn't Exedore. :) I'm pretty much left out in the cold as far as that goes, not to mention that his original design was discarded for...that, and likely any impossible merchandise would follow suit (I don't mind the Sentinels makeover, but on the Macross end of things...)

Not that this is surprising, mind you, but it annoys me.

It makes sense. Most Robotech fans, while not hating the other series, adore Macross above all else. And I do love Macross. I just love the other series, too. Sometimes I feel I love them more because of the greater effort that was required to find items related to the shows back in the dark ages (pre-internet). But Macross was certainly the most fun of the three. And I feel the only reason we are seeing more Robotech toys from the New Generation is because Harmony Gold is now pushing The Shadow Chronicles.

I think the Lana toy was cool because of the removable parts, I just wish she had an undershirt on or something. I imagine the armor would be kind of hot or maybe uncomfortable, so you might take part of it off. But nothing under it? I don't think so.

I guess it's time for my Macross rant. In Japan, they wanted to make everything fit. They worked so hard to make an official timeline so that all the shows worked. Macross II, since it didn't fit, was an 'alternate reality'. Macross: Do You Remember Love became a movie in the Macross universe. And Macross, Macross Plus, and Macross 7 were the offical story. Great. THEN WHY DOES EXADOL/EXEDORE IN MACROSS 7 LOOK LIKE THE FREAK DESIGN IN DYRL? And while we're on the subject, why did he macronize? He was micronized at the end of Macross. It was kind of stupid to macronize so that you would not even fit on the bridge. I thought it was just his head until the episode where he left the ship! And also, why do Macross Plus flight suits look may more like DYRL flight suits? Anyway, while I do think some of the designs in DYRL were superior, the Zentreadi were not. And if that is what they REALLY looked like, how could they send spies to live among the humans?

Sorry. That just always bugged me.

I didn't mind The Sentinels. I actually made/modified a few action figures. Exedore wasn't one because I never found a GI Joe-size action figure that looked enough like him to make into Macross or Sentinels micronized Exedore. I did make micronized Bretai...out of Batman! He towered over all the others...just like micronized Bretai.

Sorry. That just always bugged me.

Sorry? You just about read my mind. :) I thought DYRL was a decent adaptation, but I couldn’t enjoy it because of how the Zentradi designs/story were fucked up, especially on the male side. They became the cliche they’d transcended before.

I really, really don’t like Exedore’s redesign. His orignal look was interesting and expressive, but the makeover is just a big sci-fi cliche, and from what I’ve seen of Mac 7, he doesn’t have as much personality (he looks rather depressed, in fact). His head poking out into that bridge looks ridiculous. I just don’t see why the designers had to do that.

The whole of Macross 7 seems to be toxic. I’m watching some fansubs right now, and...good lord. It also seems to take a lot of design cues from DYRL, despite that production being the "fictitious" one.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. I mean, aside from how bad the Zentreadi look in DYRL, you'd think that if they went through all the trouble to make all the parts of Macross fit into place, they wouldn't make that HUGE GAPING INCONSISTANCY! I mean, I try to see if from their point of view. In the Macross universe, maybe they wanted to make the Zentreadi scarier, so they made them freaks in the movie. But since the series is the 'real' version, and they sent spies to the Macross, how can they look like that? It's just wrong! And again, Max got his hot Zentreadi wife. Why are the females still normal in DYRL and Macross 7, but the males aren't? They are the same race, right?

Exedore was cool because he was different. He was short, but really smart. He looked like someone who would be really smart. He did not need the bulging brain redesign to look smart! I think he is depressed. I mean, he can't really leave the bridge and walk around. The ship was designed for humans! That was just stupid.

The designs for Macross 7 do seem more inspired by DYRL than the original series. Aside from that, I thought the show was interesting. Ridiculous on many levels, but still more than just watchable. I kind of liked how Max and Miriya's new character designs were kind of like The Sentinels in that neither of them seemed to age much, Miriya now has short hair, and Max's hair is much 'neater' (as in he actually owns and uses a comb now). But I do think the Macross 7 character designs are better than The Sentinels. But I like the original Macross designs best of all.

It looked like they put a lot more money into Macross Plus. And that is odd because Macross Plus started life as an original non-Macross story idea, but they either couldn't get funding, or were afraid they wouldn't, so they changed it around a little and turned it into Macross. Don't get me wrong. I did like the story. I just wish the character designs were done by Mikimoto, or at least tried to copy the Macross style.

But since the series is the 'real' version, and they sent spies to the Macross, how can they look like that? It's just wrong! And again, Max got his hot Zentreadi wife. Why are the females still normal in DYRL and Macross 7, but the males aren't? They are the same race, right?

Welcome to Cute Monster Girl Syndrome, a thorn in my geeky side for years, where no one would ever dream of making female nonhumans "ugly"; It was a disappointment to see DYRL go over to the dark side. And the entire "War of the Sexes" thing was utter crap.

Eh, you did see the short role that Rico/Rori, Konda, and Bron/Warera had in DYRL, right? They looked like humans, except they were bald and Rori wasn't greyish and his jawline wasn't weird. It's still a double standard, but not to so large an extent.

Exedore was cool because he was different. He was short, but really smart. He looked like someone who would be really smart. He did not need the bulging brain redesign to look smart! I think he is depressed. I mean, he can't really leave the bridge and walk around. The ship was designed for humans! That was just stupid.

How does he "look smart"? I thought he just looked funny. :)

But other than that, agreed. I don't like Macross 7, but it seems odd for such a...peppy series to have a depressed-looking character in it.

...yes, during my "research" into Macross I skipped ahead and watched episode 37 of Macross 7 to get a good idea of what he looked like. Macronized, hell, he looks to be about twice the height of his orignal Zentraedi form, though with animation such things fluctuate. And the airlift...jeez.

By the way, do they ever say where the heck Breetai/whatever-romanization-you-prefer is?

I kind of liked how Max and Miriya's new character designs were kind of like The Sentinels in that neither of them seemed to age much, Miriya now has short hair, and Max's hair is much 'neater' (as in he actually owns and uses a comb now). But I do think the Macross 7 character designs are better than The Sentinels. But I like the original Macross designs best of all.

Well, when it comes to Max and Miriya, I have no opinion on which design is better.

I'm really not digging their characterizations in Mac 7. Both seem to have adopted stereotypical overprotective parent roles, instead of letting their change be an outgrowth of their original personalities. I know all about settling down, but it seems like there should have been a less trite way to do it. It's not impossible that they'd end up like that, in certain ways it's very likely, but it seems they went for the cliche mill.

I also surprised myself by being sad at their estrangement, even though I can find a million things to complain about with their courtship.

I will try to check out Macross Plus at some point, since I'm a mecha nut--though like the chick I am, I think of the characters first, and sometimes I care more about the aesthetics than practicality of the robots.

Say, as long as we're on the topic of this stuff, have you ever read the Jack McKinney Robotech novels? I managed to snag the TV-based ones through a "maybe I'll like this someday" hunch at a booksale, and recently I found a torrent of .txt files of The Sentinels and End of the Circle. Reading a novel via .txt files isn't ideal but...

I really liked them, and I'm not just saying that because they're the only continuity that does a good job with my favourite character (hell, an *awesome* job, even if I had something to compare it to); they did a good job with a lot of things, really interesting. I know they're non-canon, and got pretty insane towards the end, which is why I am reluctant to bring it up, but, wow, when it comes to just me, here, I'm very pleased.

I realized that I didn't get a chance to reply before I left for New Mexico. If I get more than a few minutes, I will reply. Otherwise, I'll do it when I get home.

And I have read all the novels. I'll tell you my views on them when I reply. But I will say that I liked them. I'll say why later. :)

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